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John Lyon, 4th Lord of Glamis

Male 1452 - 1500  (48 years)


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  • Name John Lyon 
    Suffix 4th Lord of Glamis 
    Born 1452 
    Gender Male 
    1 Source See Notes. See Burke's Peerage under Strathmore & Kinghorne & Stirnet Genealogy at http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ll/lyon01.htm Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Died 1500 
    Person ID I016032  Ancestorium

    Father John Lyon, 3rd Lord Glamis,   b. 1431, Glamis, Angusshire, Scotland. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Apr 1497, Glamis, Forfar Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years) 
    Mother Elizabeth Scrimgeour, of Dudhope,   b. 1435, Dunhope, Angusshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 20 Oct 1492  (Age < 57 years) 
    Married Bef 1450 
    Family ID F12091  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth Gray,   d. 1526, or January 19, 1529 Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 18 May 1487 
    Children 
     1. George Lyon, 5th Lord Glamis,   b. 1488, Glamis, Angushire, Scotland. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1504  (Age 16 years)
     2. John Lyon, 6th Lord of Glamis,   b. Abt 1491, Glamis, Angushire, Scotland. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Apr 1528, Leith Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 37 years)
    Family ID F11671  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getperson.php?personID=I2212&tree=CC

      JOHN LYON, IV LORD GLAMIS

      14John Lyon, IV Lord Glamis. Born 1452, died 1500. He married Elizabeth (Emily ?) Gray1, on May 18, 1487, daughter of Lord Andrew Gray and Janet Keith Gray. She was born in Huntley, Aberdeen, and died January 19, 1529. Three children: George, John and Alexander. [Conflict: other source lists children as Thomas, Richard and John.]
      15George Lyon, V Lord Glamis. Born 1488, Glamis, Angushire, Scotland. He died unmarried in 1505 and the title passed to his brother.
      15John Lyon, VI Lord Glamis. Born 1491 at Glamis, Angushire, Scotland [Circa James IV, Mary Stuart Queen of Scotland]. John Lyon died in April 8,1528. James IV renewed his alliance with King of France in 1513. The herald who brought the declaration was "The Scotch Lord Lyon". Another Lyon King-at-Arms or Lion King-at Arms: one of the Perth shire courtiers of an Earl Marshal-keeper of the heraldic beasts of the Royal Shield. The battle of Flodden Field killed 12,000 including King Robert II. The few among those not killed was John Lyon, VI Lord Glamis.

      He married Janet Douglas2, second daughter of King Robert, born 1495 in Angus, Scotland, who died by fire publicly on Castle Hill of Edinburgh, July 12(17?), 1537. In the first part of the sixteenth century the beautiful widowed Glamis was imprisoned in Edinburgh Castle with her young Son Lord Glamis and her second husband, a Campbell of Skipnish. She was falsely accused of witchcraft and mixing of potions, and conspiracy to kill King James V, by evidence of a perjurer. One version of the story related that another Campbell wish to marry Glamis and told the King tales of potions and witchcraft and that on his deathbed he confessed to the falsehoods. Glamis was condemned to death together with her young son. Campbell of Skipnish was killed trying to escape and Lord Glamis was reprieved until he came of age, but was kept a prisoner until the King's death. Glamis was found guilty of the trumped-up accusation and on December 3, 1540 was burned alive as a witch on the Castle Hill of Edinburgh 'with great commiseration of the people, being in the prime of her years, of a singular beauty, and suffering all, though a woman, with a manlike courage, all men conceiving that it was not this fact (witchcraft) but the hatred with the King carried to her brothers and the rest of the Douglas clan.'

      While Glamis castle was in the hands of the King it was used by he and his Queen, Marie of Lorraine, who held court their and ransacked it of most of its valuable furnishings.

      16John Lyon, VII Lord Glamis. Born 1510 [Circa Mary Stuart] He was placed under his uncle Alexander Lyon and died 10/3/1592. After King James V died he was released and his property (Glamis) restored to him. He married Janet Keith 2/6/1543. [Some sources indicate this John is the same as John of Ryslippe, born in 1510, died 10/3/1592 in Ryslippe. See Henry Lyon, Knight document]
      17John Lyon, VIII, Lord Glamis. [Circa Mary Stuart] John died in 1578, accidently killed at Sterling Scotland, in an encounter with followers of the Lindsay family. Privy Councillor, Extraordinary Lord of the Session (1573), High Chancellor of Scotland (1573), Keeper of the Great Seal, Lord of Scession (1570). He married Elizabeth Abernathy on July 2, 1569. She was the daughter of Lord Salton.
      16Margaret
      16Jean

      In 1560 the powerful preachers, Harlow, Whitlock, and Knox organized the church in Scotland, an act prohibiting the rites of the Church of Rome.

      18?
      19 Patrick Lyon, born 1575, died December 19, 1615. IX Lord of Glamis. [Circa James VI] He succeeded his father at the age of three in 1578. In 1606 he was created First Earl of Kinghorne, Privy Councillor to James VI of Scotland and also became James I of England in 1603, Commissioner to treat the union with England. He married Anne Murray, Daughter of Lord Tullibardine. He was a prominent public servant and started working on the redecorating of Glamis castle.
      20 John Lyon, X Lord Glamis, Second Earl of Kinghorne. [Circa James VI, who is also James I of England in 1603] Scotland becomes part of England. His second wife was Margaret Erskine.
      21 Patrick, Earl of Strathmore, 3rd Earl of Kinghorne, 1677. Privy Councillor, Extra Lord of Session, in charge of the commissary of the army in Argyll's rebellion 1643-1595.
      17Hon. Thomas (Sir) Lyon, Master of Glamis. [Circa James VI, Scotland, James I of England]. Lord Lyon - King of Arms, Keeper of heraldic beasts of Royal Shield, deeded lands in 1586, dubbed Treasurer of Scotland, Extraordinary Lord of Session until 5/28/1593. He surrounded the castle with armed men, taking James VI prisoner. He married Agnes Gray (Horne) and was deeded her land in 1579-1586. He married Eufamia Douglas, and deed land in 1589. He fled to England, readjusted his places, and returned, seizing Sterling Castle and accused the government again. He fled across the border, returned with armed royal men, invaded the palace, compelled Arran Stuart to quit the royal presence. He was appointed Captain of Kings Guards. He was a striking figure at the coronation of Danish Queen Anna on 5/17/1590, who married James I of England.
      18Mary Lyon, married Robert Semphill.
      18John of Aldbar, married the daughter of the Archbishop of St Andrews. Died without children.
      19 ?
      20?
      21John Lyon, Master of Glamis
      17William, born 1540, Little Stanmore, married Isabella Wightman on 6/17/1646, and died before 9/7/1624. Isabella born about 1559. [See Lyon, William - Isabella Wightman]
      18William, born about 1580, Heston, England. Died 1634. Married Ann Carter at Harrow of Hill, England on June 17, 1615. She was born in 1594 and died in 1634. [See Lyon Families Escape to America.]
      16Elizabeth, born about 1516 in Of Glamis, Angus, Scotland
      16George, born about 1520 Of Glamis, Angus, Scotland. Died 1/15/1542.
      15Alexander Lyon, born 1493 in Moray, Glamis, Angushire, Scotland.


      1Her parents: Andrew GRAY b: ABT. 1446 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland and Janet KEITH b: ABT. 1456 in Dunoattar, Kincardine, Scotland.
      2Her parents: George Douglas Master of ANGUS and Elizabeth DRUMMOND b: 1465 in Cumberland, Lenarkshire, Scotland. They married: ABT. MAR 1487/88 in Drummond, Perthshire, Scotland. George's parents: Archibald DOUGLAS b: ABT. 1445 in Kilmaurs, Ayrshire, Scotland and Elizabeth DRUMMOND b: 1465 in Cumberland, Lenarkshire, Scotland. They married 4 MAR 1467/68 in Kilmaurs, Ayrshire, Scotland.


      This information is from Sandi Hartnell, (hartnellsl@attbi.com) who says "Most of the early stuff was compiled by my grandmother's twin sister, Mina Lyon Rife. She dated the material 1956. She did a lot of research, and attributed some of the material from a 3 volumes titled "Lyon Memorial". She indicated they were purchased in Boston at Goodspeed Book Store. I visited Glamis Castle about 10 years ago and have guidebooks from there that had family information, and I also picked up some information from various web cites.

      For more information on Lyon Hartnell line see under:
      Abraham Hartnell, b ?, d 9/29/1729 in Winfrith, Dorset, England
      William Frederick Hartnell Born 2/6/1861 - Overmoigne, England
      Joseph Hartnell was born in 1799
      John Hartnell born July 1789 in Chaldon Herring, Dorset, Dorsetshire, England
      James Hartnell was born in 1794
      John Cox Hartnell May 21, 1834

      William Penney, born about 1750

      John (Colonel of Ryslippe) Lyon died October 03, 1592
      William (of Roxberry) Lyon born December 13, 1620
      Marcus R. Lyon born February 28, 1857
      Henry (Sir) (of Ryslippe) Lyon, born about 1410
      John (Sir) (of Foreviot & Glamis) Lyon, born 1320
      John (4th Lord of Glamis) Lyon, born 1452
      John de Lyon born Bet. 1292 - 1319
      Roger (Sir) (de Leonne) de Lyon, born 1040